Alcoholism Addiction Treatment

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  No Real Help posted: 20 Jul at 6:35 am

  Not having one.

  Where / how do I get one?

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  KitKat posted: 20 Jul at 6:47 am

  about 80 proof, right now.

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  frenzy reincarnated posted: 20 Jul at 7:04 am

  Remembering my many hangovers and, of course, Christ, make it unnecessary to seek help at this point.

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  MethoOzelah posted: 20 Jul at 7:48 am

  There are 4 reasons!

  1. My desire and enjoyment of drugs

  2. The concept of “addiction” that society has ingrained in me and every one else inclduing medical professionals – which is to say that this “illness” or “disease” cannot be stopped by means of free will. I mean come on? I can’t use free will to stop my cancer from growing, so how can you expect me to just wish away my addiction?

  3. It’s too hard to seek the right kind of help – I had to work hard to become addicted to my drug of choice – I didn’t wake up one morning and stumble across Y!A and thus decide to be addicted. It took me at least 3 months of visiting Y!A twice per day to get any habit at all!

  4. Not having any greater goals in life – But then again, what could be greater than being a junkie? There is something profound, attractive, and tragic in the junkie way of life. The sullenly vacant, half starved, pale, expressionless gaze in my face is supposed to hint at matters on my mind that are deeper than normal everyday 9-5 life! – People need to realize that intellectual profundity can be displayed by adopting the right facial expression, having the right unkept appearance and the appropriate slumped posture.

  Remember – It is easier, after all, to give people a dose of medicine than to give them a reason for living. That is something the patient must minister to himself.

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  Subject 2 Change posted: 20 Jul at 7:57 am

  Truth be told, beauty is in the eye of the beer holder and well… I’m diggin’ on doin’ Eartha at the moment.

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  Treacle posted: 20 Jul at 8:03 am

  The fear of not being able to cope with the harsh realities of life and not being able to deal with the horrible people in it,my drug is like a safety blanket that kinda numbs me from it all.

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  ♣glow♣ posted: 20 Jul at 8:39 am

  I just like drinking. It makes people more interesting and stops you from thinking about things too deeply. Addiction is only a problem if it harms you and is all you think about from the second you wake up, till you pass out drunk with your underpants somehow put on over your pyjamas.

  Ambi… A month without alcohol? :S I haven’t had a month without alcohol since I was 16.

  LOL! well I thought about it once, but then I realised saying that I can “go for a month”/ quit any time I like is a sign of addiction in itself.

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  Ambivalent LAUreate posted: 20 Jul at 8:42 am

  People usually become addicted because it’s the only way to stop horrible feelings. To stop drinking/doing drugs risks being overwhelmed by those feelings. Whatever else is apparently going on, that’s usually at the back of it, although most addicts will categorically deny it, not least because they’ve totally repressed those feelings (the drug being part of the process) in order to cope with life.

  And yes, I do enjoy a drink, or several. And I used to do so-called ‘soft’ drugs. But I have a choice. Addicts don’t. Going without alcohol for a month isn’t a problem for me. When you meet people for whom it really IS a problem, whose world ends up revolving around where the next drink/drug is coming from, it’s not pretty.

  EDIT: @Glow – if you ever go to India and spend the time with ordinary Indians rather than Europeans or Europeanised Indians, you won’t even think about alcohol – unless you’re an addict……. And how about seeing if you CAN do a month without? It’d be an interesting experiment and who knows, you might even gain something from it!

  EDIT2: @Jimbo – sorry it sounds ‘textbook’-ish, but it’s written from a lot of experience of working with alcoholics and others. I don’t know why you object to the adjective ‘horrible’ – I just meant things you would rather avoid than experience, which seems to be exactly what you’re saying about existential angst. Alcohol’s only one way that people try to deal with potentially overwhelming feelings – others do violence and hostility, or total subsuming of themselves to someone else, etc. Whatever the survival technique, finding a way to build a strong enough sense of self to look the difficult stuff in the face is pretty much a prerequisite of recovery/change.

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  JimboP posted: 20 Jul at 9:23 am

  Ambivalent LAU’s answer is too textbookish. It does not have to be “horrible feelings” that a person tries to stifle with an addiction. All it requires is an even slightly gnawing sensation of existential dissatisfaction with human life and the human consciousness, to make someone want to regularly indulge in altering those feelings. Soon or later, the substance takes over and grows, its importance having started as an “appetizer” to living, soon becomes the entire menu. Even when a person begins to collapse from the addiction, life in a big mess, treatment is usually not successful, even along with AA / NA. Repeated treatments and relapses are frequently needed. And our western culture likes to believe in “free will”, which keeps people trying to do the impossible–to stop doing what they really LOVE doing–doping themselves.

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  Dr. Frog can fly! posted: 20 Jul at 10:15 am

  Hey….I just finished court ordered “anger management” crap courses….now you wanna talk about booze and drug problems? Damn, I’m a frog…not a priest. give us a break, dude.

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  Daniel posted: 20 Jul at 10:38 am

  The stigma that comes from a society at the mercy of a phony drug war. This is big business after all. Push me the drugs so you can play me for a fool later. Fill the prisons with the people who have fallen into the trap.
  Rehab must be individualized to be effective and the specific environmental conditioning must be addressed. Where’s the funding for the real research and treatment? It’s spent on building more and bigger prisons.

  Yeah. BS, BS, BS. Medical marijuana? $
  Potheads in prison? $$$x$$$x$$$
  Meanwhile my alcoholism and cigarette habit is still legal so I’ll keep it. I can quit any time…

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  presidentofallantarctica posted: 20 Jul at 11:33 am

  The fact that I don’t need help. If I really want to quit, I can, honest. It’s all about will power.

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  Summerlyn posted: 20 Jul at 12:31 pm

  that drugs are totally worth it, even if im screwing up my body were all gunna die someday anyway why not have fun,
  plus i don’t want to live till im super old, and honestly wouldn’t mind dying at fifty..

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